What a "get" for the Yankees if they could acquire Stanton, but don't count on it at all (Image: Steve Mitchell-USA TODAY Sports)

Rumor Mill: Giancarlo Stanton is "available"


The Miami Marlins cleaned house rather abruptly when they sent many of their biggest stars to Toronto in exchange for some young talent. Many fans, especially in the Miami area, were none too pleased with the likes of Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson, Mark Buehrle, John Buck, and Emilio Bonifacio being traded to the Blue Jays. The Marlins received seven players in return, three of whom are prospects, along with nearly $160 million in salary relief. Not only were the fans upset, but their young slugger, Giancarlo Stanton is the only remaining superstar on a team that will undoubtedly be the NL East basement dwellers for years to come.

Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald reported back Nov. 14 that Stanton took to Twitter voicing his opinion about the trade,

“Alright, I’m pissed off!!! Plain & Simple.”

There are differing reports stating that Stanton demanded a trade, but it’s difficult to believe the Marlins would trade their final seat-filler, especially a player who is only 23-years-old. ESPN reports that the Marlins will listen to offers, but they aren’t actively shopping the young slugger, according to the team’s assistant general manager Dan Jennings.

So as Yankees fans, what are we to make of this? Sure the Yankees have signed Ichiro Suzuki to play RF for them. They are in dire need of a right-handed power bat to help balance out the lineup. They are also looking for cost-controlled major league-ready talent to keep payroll under the vaunted $189 million threshold in 2014. Stanton is both a right-handed power hitter AND he’s making peanuts despite his numbers as he’s not eligible for arbitration until 2014, where he’ll likely get a decent pay raise (Think Ryan Howard-type raise through arbitration)

Let’s take a look at some numbers real quick. In his three-year career he holds a .270 /.350 /.553 slash line, with 93 home runs and 232 RBI. He’s in much of the same mold as Curtis Granderson in that he’ll strikeout a ton (averages 188 K’s per year or 28.8 percent K-rate), but he’ll create runs at a great clip (140 wRC+) and put himself in position for others (.383 wOBA). Couple that with good defense (11.7 UZR/150 and 10 DRS) and you’ve got a bonafide superstar who’s “available.”

Now the question isn’t his legitimacy as a superstar, but whether the Yankees have the pieces to acquire him. First, the reason Toronto was able to obtain all those players from the Marlins was because who they were giving up were young, inexpensive pieces who could contribute in next season or in 2014. The Yankees have no such cache of players currently on their roster or in their system. Marlins need everything, but pitching is top priority and the Yankees only have spare parts like Ivan Nova, David Phelps, and Phil Hughes at the major league level. None of which are centerpiece-type players in a blockbuster deal. Furthermore, their best pitching prospect, Manny Banuelos is on the shelf in 2013 recovering from Tommy John surgery, while the rest of their positional talent is still playing low minor league ball.

Many are clamoring for GM Brian Cashman to go out and get Stanton, but the Yankees literally have no pieces to offer in return. What they do have are older players who are expensive, which is the exact opposite of how the Marlins run their team. Barring a miracle, the Yankees will not see Stanton in Yankee pinstripes in 2013.

Stats courtesy of FanGraphs and contract information courtesy of Baseball Prospectus

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  • disqus_3Tb24JgYzH

    Banuelos, Bethances, Phelps, Nova and other prospects and maybe they could include pineda as well.. then maybe the marlins would start giving trade revisions so a deal could be made..

    • http://YanksGoYard.com/ Matt Hunter

      Unfortunately I don’t think that would work. You can’t just trade a ton of mediocre guys for a superstar. The Marlins want cost-controlled, high-ceiling, elite prospects/players, and none of those guys, except maybe Pineda, are that. The Yankees just don’t have the pieces in their system to get Stanton.

      • disqus_3Tb24JgYzH

        It’s all A-Rod’s fault.. if he was not injured we could shipped him to the marlins for stanton.. obviously the yanks would pay ton of cash but i think a-rod would be a gold mine in the ears of loria..

        anyway so basically your saying the yanks got no chance for stanton then who could the yanks shipped those so called ton of mediocre guys for a superstar or just a star that is cheap and can help them in their budget cuts..

        • Jimmy Kraft

          I don’t believe that at all. The Marlins are trying to shave payroll, which has been their modus operandi throughout their inception into the league. They were the Rays before Andrew Freidman came along, meaning if they win at all it’s because their draft picks and minor leaguers are over-producing and they’ve supplement them with low-cost veteran talent. Neither one of those are A-Rod. He’s still owed $114M over the next five seasons and won’t be a free agent until 2018 when he’s 41 years old. There’s no way, the Marlins would have taken on that type of money unless A-Rod was 28 years old and still in his MVP years, but would the Yankees trade him at that point? No.

          Plan and simple, the Yankees are stuck in their own mess here. Many of us knew when they re-upped A-Rod it was a terrible contract. However, what we didn’t know at the time was the $187M budget the Yankees would impose of themselves, which is handcuffing them right now.

          To answer your question, the Yankees really don’t have any surpluses that would entice teams to give up prime major league-ready talent. They would instead need to give something away they need in order to fill another need. Robbing Peter to pay Paul-type stuff. Right now, they have to sit back and hope some of their young talent like Mason Williams, Tyler Austin, Manny Banuelos, Slade Heathcott, Mark Montgomery, et al, continue their track toward the show. If not, the Yankees could be in trouble…

    • Jimmy Kraft

      To echo Matt’s thoughts, it just isn’t going to happen with those players. There’s a HUGE age gap between talent on the Yankees, either you’re really young with loads of potential or you’re on the wrong side of your prime…all the those in the middle, with the exception of Robertson, as of now, are “middling”.

      Also, fans often overvalue their own prospects. You have to look at them without the rose-colored shades on. From the outside, Banuelos is coming off TJ surgery, how well can he recover from that? There’s enough risk in taking a prospect, but to also take a risk that he’ll recover from an injury? That’s waaaaaay more risk to take on as part of a deal. Betances? Walk machine who was demoted and hasn’t found any success in the past 2-3 years. His mechanics are a mess and he’s venturing into BUST territory, if he hasn’t already. Phelps? He might get a little better, but he’s still a back-of-the-rotation/swingman guy. Nova? See: Phelps, but he could potentially be a middle-of-the-rotation pitcher.

      So look at it like this. Who you be happy with the Yankees giving up Giancarlo Stanton for those same prospects? I certainly wouldn’t. The Yankees simply don’t match up at all with the Marlins’ needs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=736781775 Justin Martin

    What if the Yankees offer Phelps, Warren, Adams, Nunez, Mesa, and Joseph for Stanton. Would the Marlins accept that?

    • Jimmy Kraft

      Again, those are all middling prospects. The Marlins want young can’t-miss prospects in return for Stanton, and why not? There’s little reason to move him, and he’s a generational talent. It would require much more than the Yankees currently have on their club and within the system in order to acquire him.

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