Comments on: Time for the Yankees to recall Francisco Cervelli?

By: tom23

tom23 — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:39:30 +0000

@Cadyfatcat Errors don’t even tell the whole story-its about all of the extra balls Nunez won’t get to that Nix will.

Nunez isnt going to get a chance to work on his defense at the major league level- look at the infield, he basically is never going to play.Nix has only started 7 games as an infielder so barring an injury Nunez wouldnt have had much of a chance to work on his defense. In the short run the Yankees are probably a little better off with Nix (in large part bc of the makeup of their team) and in the long run they’ll be better off with Nunez actually getting to play in AAA (once he’s healthy) to work on his defense.

Nunez’s approach at the plate is pretty bad.He still chases a lot of pitches outside of the strike zone and swings at too many pitcher’s pitches in the zone when he’s ahead in the count. He does have raw ability though so he’ll be a much better hitter if/when he learns to be more patient.

By: Cadyfatcat

Cadyfatcat — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:51:55 +0000

@tom23 I certainly don’t like bad defense, I looked at the numbers and they’re more even than I thought, but they still side for Nunez. Nunez had 20 errors last year in 112 games, Nix has had two in 30, extrapolated out that’s about 8. I think it’s fair to assume Nunez would bat 2.75, .050 above Nix. Say they both would have had 70 games with an average of 4 ABs per game. That gives Nunez 14 more hits than Nix, I assume a hit is equal to an error (it’s the same thing just on the other side of the field). Add in Nunez’s stolen bases at a value of 0.5 hits each, and you have another 6 hits on top of that. So he is worth at least 20 more hits, subtract the 12 more errors and he is still 8 ahead of Nix. I also think Nunez isn’t a terrible prospect if he can get his defense together. Having him work on his D on the big league level allows you to shop him around if need be, he has more of a chance to impress the management of other teams on the field. I also don’t think there is a problem with his approach to the plate, he’s come through in a fair amount of clutch situations. I also think some quick guys on the bases bring some excitement to the bench, and with Gardner out there is nobody doing that. I wholeheartedly agree with Jones’ defense, sure he doesn’t have the speed he used to but his positioning and reads are still of gold glove caliber. he made a sliding grab coming in the other night the other night and made the play look easy.

By: tom23

tom23 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:00:52 +0000

@Cadyfatcat
forgot to add nunez is also injured

By: tom23

tom23 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:56:40 +0000

@Cadyfatcat
I actually agree with much of this post- although it has nothing to do with cervelli.

They have been awful this year- by the same token players strikeout rates from year to year are relatively consistent and yet many of them have hit a lot worse with RISP than they have in the past. It could be that they are pressing, it could just be a coincidence.Having someone who makes more contact would be helpful in these spots.

Swishers OBP is down about 50 points in 2011-12 than it was from 2009-10 which is a big issue.

I have to disagree with you on Nunez.Nunez at this point needs reps in the minors.His defense has been so bad in both the IF and OF that he might as well wear a frying pan for a glove. He is defitnly faster than Nix and a better hitter (he’s a much more talented hitter but has a terrible approach at the plate so they offenseive gap isn’t nearly as wide as it should be-look at what Nunez has done in both the majors and minors compared to Nix-he should be emabrrased) but Nix is a much better fielder and I think overall they are slightly better off with Nix- especially considering the fact that their offense is very good and their defense especially without gardener is not very good (the outfield with Gardener out is terrible, Jeter is an awful defensive shortstop,Arod is still OK at third but has diminsihed a lot, Tex Cano and Martin are all excellent.)

It will never happen (it never did when they had Pena either) but it would be nice if in the 9th inning of a game with a one or 2 run lead Girardi would actually replace Jeter defensvely with Nix, especially if Jeter had just hit in the 8th.Of course he has also had games where Jones was the DH with Ibanez or Swisher (or both) in the field, and while Jones isnt what he used to be he is still way better defesively than those two. When gardener was healthy and wasnt playing against lefties there were even games where in the 9th inning he would put gardener in for Jones defensvely while leaving Swisher in the game instead of sliding Jones to right.There was also a 3-2 game the Yankees won where Girardi left Nunez in left field in the 9th inning depsite having Jones on the bench- so I really don’t expect him to start actually upgrading the teams defense in the 9th inning of games with a small lead.

By: Cadyfatcat

Cadyfatcat — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:25:16 +0000

While Cervelli is certainly not a good idea to put in DH, I do think the yankees do need to focus more on contact, especially in RISP w/LTO at bats, where a good grounder or a sac fly will bring a man in. They have been horrendous with RISP this year and too many times I’ve seen men stranded on third. Basically, I’m worried about the postseason, because I think when facing good pitching all the yankees can be struck out easily in these situations. There’s nobody that I trust (with the exception of jeter) to make contact and get a guy home if that’s what’s needed. Two guys who were great at that: Damon and Abreu. Also, Swisher has had a productive year so far but he has been compromising his eye, his usual spread between BA and OBP is around .100, this year it’s less than 60. Also, why the hell is Jason Nix on the team rather than Nunez? That’s just stupid. Yes Nunez has a bit of work to do in the field, but his offense and speed on the bases, especially with gardner out, more than make up for it.

Just had to vent

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By: tom23

tom23 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 05:16:07 +0000

@thatonemlbguy @MHunterYGY Dwayne Wise sucks and is a defensive replacement who is only here b/c Gardener is hurt
I never said anything good about Wise he is garbage but even he has a role on this team (not for long though). If you’re arguing Cervelli is a better offensive player than Wise I guess you’re right but that’s like debating which bag of shit smells better.

Andru Jones stirkes out 36% of the time- hes the one guy you metnioned who strikes out a lot more than Cervelli and despite that against lefties he is still way more productive than Cervelli
He should only play against lefties

Granderson strikes out a little more than cervelli and he is leaps and bounds better offensively than Cervelli on his best day

Every other guy you critisized for striking out too often actually strikes out LESS often than Cevrelli and produces offensively at a much better rate

I’m not sure why you were asked to write two blogs- but its pretty funny that’s your defense for saying you know anything about this game when you are incapable of defending your points with logic and facts despite ample opportunity to do so

I was actually trying to have a debate with you until you started mentioning cervelli dhing

You pointed out Montero being a catcher and dhing last year and this year as though that has anything to do with Cervelli
He’s a catcher who can actually hit
Posada also dhed sometimes
Piazza dhed sometimes both on the A’s and in interleague (and I think in the 2000 world series for a game or 2)
Im sure Buster Posey would Dh if he played in the AL once in a while

The reason it’s unusual to have a catcher DH is because most catcher’s cant hit.
Finding the rare catcher who can hit and dh’s sometimes and using that as a justifcation as having a below avergae offensive player DH who happens to be a catcher is illogical.

By: MHunterYGY

MHunterYGY — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 05:01:35 +0000

@tom23 @thatonemlbguy Tom, while I generally agree with your position here, you could have stated it in a more respectful manner, arguing the facts of the matter without insulting the opposing point of view. That does nothing productive, and clearly escalates the conflict. Because we all know this argument is going nowhere, let’s leave our egos at the door, and just stop arguing.

By: thatonemlbguy

thatonemlbguy — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 04:55:55 +0000

@tom23 @MHunterYGY I did state some facts, but clearly, your head is too far up your ass to read.

Can’t even hit a triple? Are you serious? I really think you’re out of touch with reality bud. I really do. Jones? He’s batting .218 with 36 strikeouts in 101 at bats, or 36% of the time. Yet apparently Jones is supposed to DH since Ibanez is in left while Gardner is out. DeWayne Wise? He’s batting .198 with only one home run and three RBIs, yet he’s STILL on the roster? Oh, wait, in your world it’s because he’s not Cervelli so he must be good! The Yankees have enough power, but not enough contact, that’s been evident in the past few years as they continue to lead in home runs. Get real dude

I know nothing about this game? Really? Then tell me, why did FanSided accept me to write for TWO blogs? Yet you have the nerve to tell me I’m out of touch with reality? Take a look at yourself.

By: tom23

tom23 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 04:48:29 +0000

@thatonemlbguy @MHunterYGY
try stating some facts to defend your viewpoints

you just recommended a way below average major league hitter who can’t even hit in triple a to be a major league part time dh because he’s a “contact guy with no power”
when everyone else on the team hits way better than him and almost everyone of them strikes out less often
but yea its better to have a .240 hitter who strikes out hits for no power and doesnt get on base a lot than it is to have a .240 hitter with lots of power who gets on base a lot

excellent point- less offensive production leads to more runs for a team why didnt i think of that? Oh that’s right b/c I live in reality.

You know less than nothing about this game